It's not, if you're comparing new tires vs. new tires. All rights reserved. I find both the PSS and PS4S easily overwhelmed by M4 ZCP power even on 295s. To verify you're human please type the word you see above in the box below.

But having driven both in anger now, I'm going to say that Pilot Sport 4S tires on their third event are probably as good as RE-71R tires on their third event.

Michael, my 2004 575M came fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. I need a little more front grip to have less understeer. They do not talk when on limit like a normal street tire, instead they grip quietly until they break free, making an awful groaning noise when they do, not the typical high pitched screeching. The first session of this year was at the same track and the difference was night and day. That and the fact that they look aggressive/cool as hell. Lasted me about 20000 miles, only 3 track days but incredibly aggressive daily driving. I look at value per dollar to be competitive at the pointy … On the other hand, beyond wear, there is nothing wrong with the tires; no track damage whatsoever. for RE71R, does it requires higher temp as MPSC2?

I noticed it more as it's worn down a bit. You and I come from very different schools of thought. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it … Also, it does not appear to heat up as much on the track as the PS4S. I will put them on my 16M when the Pilot Super Sports wear out. I'll take the slight comfort, noise and wear penalty to have a tire that I know will just stick when I need it to. © 2020 FerrariChat.

And if I ever decide to take that car to the track again, I know the tires will be up to it. One last thought. They are pretty noisy for daily driving. Appreciate 0 … Will definitely buy again. It appears superior to the Michelin PS4S for track use (the 4S isn't really a track tire) and in my opinion (and without having actually driven a car using them) the RE71R is closer in nature to the M PSC2, but at a much lower price. Looks like they've got comparable tread life. Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. The tires provide all the grip you want short of mounting hoosiers to the car. It should be other way around. But after almost a year of the RE71Rs, they are all chipped up. The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. Of course the only complaint is they are a little noisy, depending on the road surface. 10/10 will buy again. Those tires were terrible and the ABS was constantly engaging. This was always just a daily setup that would be enough to get me back into autocross after 15+ years off. I'm concerned with road noise, ... A 255 RE71R will give you more traction than a 275 PSS. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2.

My rear fender flare and rear bumper were totally fine with my previous RE-11s. or it is similar temp as PSS/PS4S? ). These are the ultimate autocross/time trial tire in the 200tw or higher category. Maybe some updated opinions on them if you have any. Maybe another 3,000 miles to go, not bad to get 20,000 miles on such soft rubber. I always say they are made of "black magic and mozzarella cheese". A bit under two years ago with 13,000 miles and plenty of tread left I decided that time was the enemy of those tires and a threat to my well-being.

I will also make the statement that I *think* the PS4S will outlast the RE71R even on the track (or maybe especially on the track) so, even though the PS4S costs a fair amount more, overall the RE71R's may end up being more expensive. Part of MOTORSPORT NETWORK. You will have to spray the tires to keep them cool on hot summer autocross days. I have no opinion on their wet weather or cold weather behavior as I live in Phoenix, AZ and if it rains I don't go out. After research I overcame my predilection in favor of Pirelli - I was for almost thirty years the guardian of the one-off 365GTC speciale built by Enzo for his friend, Leopoldo Pirelli, Chairman and CEO of his eponymous Company. Does anyone have experience with PSS vs RE11, PSS vs RE71, or RE11 vs RE71? RE71R have been dominating Autocross events in America for years now. Looks great! The price of a RE71R in a 205/50-15 has gone up 10% in the past 3 years. The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. Also, the Z4 is front-engined vs. the mid-engine Boxster which probably accounts for some of the improved turn-in for the Boxster. Tires are also just more expensive. Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it crosses painted lines). I don't see any abnormal bulging, no problem with traction control and no rubbing with 305/30-19 on stock 10in wide rims. Don't mean to bring this thread back up, but would you mind posting a pic of how the whole car looks with your tire setup? Maybe only a couple 200 tw rated tires that come close to the grip these tires offer. They replaced Pilot Super Sports. 2018-05-31 - Is that tyre available in Europe? I do not believe the Potenza RE71R is available in Europe at the moment.

Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. If money were no object and I was looking for a road only (daily driver, if comfort and noise were important to me) tire, I would go with the M PS4S. Perhaps in a colder climate I would not feel the same way, as cold weather and extreme performance tires don't get along. I'm not going to tell you that the Pilot Sport 4S is better than the RE-71R. ABS no longer engaged, turn-in was spectacular, grip phenomenal. In fact, I will probably end up putting the RE71R on every car we own, for which they have the correct fitment (other than our BMW X1). Help millions of other tyre buyers, Sorry, we don't currently have any label data for the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R. Have YOU got experience with the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R? They also kick up a huge amount of debris/pebbles. I'll be purchasing a set of 17x8 +35 RPF1's with RE71R's just for the autocross days and maybe a track day a couple of times a year. I got about 8k out of the rears and 17k from the fronts. Sure looks familiar. Which model of the BC Forged? Do you have a pic on how much it bulges out? It might be 1 sec (in the dry r71r) faster, compared to 2-3 sec faster in the wet for the PSS.



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